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	<title>Comments on: The Fraying of a Nation&#8217;s Decency</title>
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	<description>Anand Giridharadas - Columnist and Author of India Calling</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://anand.ly/articles/the-fraying-of-a-nations-decency/comment-page-2#comment-3625</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;me too&quot; comments can be valuable, so, here&#039;s mine: 

Ditto on the teacher-union bashing objections. I have seen some cases where unions have overstepped, but in the teaching world, in general, this is not the case. Salaries are nowhere near on a par with other professions that require equivalent initial and on-going educational credentials and often less time and effort. And the vilification doesn&#039;t help. 

Also, as has been stated more clearlly than I can manage, the Amazon situation is exactly whey we need unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;me too&#8221; comments can be valuable, so, here&#8217;s mine: </p>
<p>Ditto on the teacher-union bashing objections. I have seen some cases where unions have overstepped, but in the teaching world, in general, this is not the case. Salaries are nowhere near on a par with other professions that require equivalent initial and on-going educational credentials and often less time and effort. And the vilification doesn&#8217;t help. </p>
<p>Also, as has been stated more clearlly than I can manage, the Amazon situation is exactly whey we need unions.</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
		<link>http://anand.ly/articles/the-fraying-of-a-nations-decency/comment-page-2#comment-3368</link>
		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently read your article about the impact economy on the New York Times and I deeply appreciated the new perspective on the reality of our current &quot;crisis.&quot; Indeed, the world is in flux and a dramatic shift of money and power is underway on all levels and people would do well to put things into historical perspective.

However, the points you make are most easily digested by people who have the luxury to spend time thinking about them. Yes, lots of amazing changes are happening very quickly and power is diffusing rapidly in ways people couldn&#039;t even imaging five years ago but there&#039;s also the fact that millions of people can&#039;t find work and that the world&#039;s economic leader, the United States, has traded social inequality for economic inequality. 

These same corporations that you trumpet as being leaders are the same entities that, using the methods of the &quot;1%,&quot; have boosted economic production to pre-2008 levels but have done it by closing the doors of employment and economic opportunity to millions of people in the process.

I challenge you to convince me that things are getting better, not worse, especially when a single corporation like Goldman Sachs can drive millions to the brink of starvation by betting on grain futures or when the 7 billionth person is born on earth and people bake the family a cake instead of demanding more access to contraceptives, family planning services, and education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read your article about the impact economy on the New York Times and I deeply appreciated the new perspective on the reality of our current &#8220;crisis.&#8221; Indeed, the world is in flux and a dramatic shift of money and power is underway on all levels and people would do well to put things into historical perspective.</p>
<p>However, the points you make are most easily digested by people who have the luxury to spend time thinking about them. Yes, lots of amazing changes are happening very quickly and power is diffusing rapidly in ways people couldn&#8217;t even imaging five years ago but there&#8217;s also the fact that millions of people can&#8217;t find work and that the world&#8217;s economic leader, the United States, has traded social inequality for economic inequality. </p>
<p>These same corporations that you trumpet as being leaders are the same entities that, using the methods of the &#8220;1%,&#8221; have boosted economic production to pre-2008 levels but have done it by closing the doors of employment and economic opportunity to millions of people in the process.</p>
<p>I challenge you to convince me that things are getting better, not worse, especially when a single corporation like Goldman Sachs can drive millions to the brink of starvation by betting on grain futures or when the 7 billionth person is born on earth and people bake the family a cake instead of demanding more access to contraceptives, family planning services, and education.</p>
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		<title>By: dale ruff</title>
		<link>http://anand.ly/articles/the-fraying-of-a-nations-decency/comment-page-2#comment-3367</link>
		<dc:creator>dale ruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short of unions or a model like the European co-determination, with worker representation in management, the indecency of Amazon will only get worse.  I will think twice before buying anything from Amazon.

As a teacher who was treated with respect only because we had a strong union, I regret the author threw in, without any reason, the attack on &quot;selfish&quot; teachers who demand to paid for their work.  How indecent we are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short of unions or a model like the European co-determination, with worker representation in management, the indecency of Amazon will only get worse.  I will think twice before buying anything from Amazon.</p>
<p>As a teacher who was treated with respect only because we had a strong union, I regret the author threw in, without any reason, the attack on &#8220;selfish&#8221; teachers who demand to paid for their work.  How indecent we are!</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much nit picking. And no, I&#039;m not saying you all have lice. Your comments, every one of you, miss the point being made in Anand&#039;s article. It&#039;s time for all of us to make better attempts to walk in each other&#039;s shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much nit picking. And no, I&#8217;m not saying you all have lice. Your comments, every one of you, miss the point being made in Anand&#8217;s article. It&#8217;s time for all of us to make better attempts to walk in each other&#8217;s shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: David Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Amazon products and services. But this appalled me so much I signed a petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/amazoncom-warehouse-workers-are-people-not-machines.

I cannot relate to a human being (the manager) who treats others this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Amazon products and services. But this appalled me so much I signed a petition: <a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/amazoncom-warehouse-workers-are-people-not-machines" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/petitions/amazoncom-warehouse-workers-are-people-not-machines</a>.</p>
<p>I cannot relate to a human being (the manager) who treats others this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Amazon&#039;s workers were unionized, they would not be treated as poorly as they are. Your essay is made weaker by your digs against unions. It was unions that saved workers from horrible conditions like those you describe. Capitalism demands profit at any cost. It is unions that demand decent working conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Amazon&#8217;s workers were unionized, they would not be treated as poorly as they are. Your essay is made weaker by your digs against unions. It was unions that saved workers from horrible conditions like those you describe. Capitalism demands profit at any cost. It is unions that demand decent working conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: pynchme</title>
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		<dc:creator>pynchme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your articles give me a sense of hope - great work. Keep writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your articles give me a sense of hope &#8211; great work. Keep writing.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 10:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a fantastic article.

Successful societies are about balance - in this case the balance of power. Amazon has too much power over the workers (a temporary workforce is unable to form unions). Conversely, in many government bodies unions have too much power and prevent any kind of change, even that which is necessary.

Ultimately balance is disturbed when groups become too large. They become overly powerful and less in-touch with events. Huge unions forget about protecting the futures of the individuals they supposedly represent, huge corporates chase shareholder profits (as they are legally obliged to do) at the cost of the welfare of their staff.

With an increasing globalisation, larger corporates and super-states (e.g. EU) this problem is going to get worse, not better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a fantastic article.</p>
<p>Successful societies are about balance &#8211; in this case the balance of power. Amazon has too much power over the workers (a temporary workforce is unable to form unions). Conversely, in many government bodies unions have too much power and prevent any kind of change, even that which is necessary.</p>
<p>Ultimately balance is disturbed when groups become too large. They become overly powerful and less in-touch with events. Huge unions forget about protecting the futures of the individuals they supposedly represent, huge corporates chase shareholder profits (as they are legally obliged to do) at the cost of the welfare of their staff.</p>
<p>With an increasing globalisation, larger corporates and super-states (e.g. EU) this problem is going to get worse, not better.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;ve found most disturbing in the days since this piece was published is how few of my friends and colleagues are speaking out against Amazon.com&#039;s warehouse management practices. The cynic in me thinks that had the story been about  Walmart, there would be much more of an uproar from that quarter. Not only is our lack of decency showing, so is our elitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve found most disturbing in the days since this piece was published is how few of my friends and colleagues are speaking out against Amazon.com&#8217;s warehouse management practices. The cynic in me thinks that had the story been about  Walmart, there would be much more of an uproar from that quarter. Not only is our lack of decency showing, so is our elitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chadwhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chadwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The examples and equivalencies in the article were of course very weak, as has been noted hotly and coldly in the comments. So what? The essay is about bridging the gap between view points. The difficulty of this hand-holding is herein quite obvious: nobody wants to join the party because the host doesn&#039;t have a solid grasp of the history of Labor in the United States, or because he&#039;s guilty of watching CNN&#039;s coverage of intra-regional conflict in Iraq. These are the attitudes the article would like to quell, but failed to do because of its naivety. But where is the informed person who&#039;s naive enough to suggest peace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The examples and equivalencies in the article were of course very weak, as has been noted hotly and coldly in the comments. So what? The essay is about bridging the gap between view points. The difficulty of this hand-holding is herein quite obvious: nobody wants to join the party because the host doesn&#8217;t have a solid grasp of the history of Labor in the United States, or because he&#8217;s guilty of watching CNN&#8217;s coverage of intra-regional conflict in Iraq. These are the attitudes the article would like to quell, but failed to do because of its naivety. But where is the informed person who&#8217;s naive enough to suggest peace?</p>
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